How do levers play a role in golf? Do they matter? Is it relavent to the swing motion and club. I offer this view.
Source from: http://www.brianmac.co.uk/levers.htm
Levers
For your arm, leg or any body part to move the appropriate muscles and bones must work together as a series of levers. A lever comprises of three components -
•Fulcrum or pivot - the point about which the lever rotates
•Load - the force applied by the lever system
•Effort - the force applied by the user of the lever system
The way in which a lever will operate is dependent on the type of lever
Classification of Levers
•Class 1 - The fulcrum lies between the effort and the load
•Class 2 - The fulcrum is at one end, the effort at the other end and the load lies between the effort and the fulcrum
•Class 3 - The fulcrum is at one end, the load at the other end and the effort lies between the load and the fulcrum
Class 3 is the most common class of lever to be found in the human body.
The shaft can also act as the lever in at least 2 of the classes to move the club head.
What might be one scenario, or explanation of kinetic linking and how levers play a role to transfer energy. If you don't mind, I would like to offer my humble view and scenario.
Before I begin, I must state that both the explanation and execution of the swing motion, are equally difficult tasks. However, if we understand first the how and observe possibilities, we can better manage the datails of execution, in my opinion. What I am attempting to explain is actually a natural occurance in a swing motion, IMO.
The following explanation is an attempt to describe how we move or accelerate the load, weight or club head.
We will focus on the shaft as the lever.
The back swing will be excluded and we will begin at the topp, however, in a one piece takaway we can leverage the club to the topp. The arms swing, but the hands leverage the club up.
The first lever used in a possible swing motion sequence is described as follows.
Load,(club head) fulcrum,(right palm) effort(left hand bottom 3 fingers, pinkey first)
This use of levers stops the club at the top and can, as Mr. Snead says, initiate the down swing.
This next motion could simply involve dropping the elbows using gravity to assist this motion. One might also look to Hogan’s method of using the left leg ,(knee)to start the motion left in rotation causing the hands to drop naturally.
Now if you use only the right hand to power the swing and apply any torque or pressure to the shaft, you are using one of the 3 classes of levers.
Example, the pinky as the (fulcrum). The effort or torque, or force applied by the thumb and forefinger area on the shaft. The result being, the load or club head is accelerated. This would fall into the category of a class (3) lever. You may wish to switch the scenario or position of the effort and fulcrum. The effort or force applied would come from the pinky, ring and middle finger of the right hand. The fulcrum would now be the thumb and forefinger. This would accelerate the club head. This lever would be classified as a class(1) lever. This action would require a great deal or wrist action, such as what one might use at release. The left hand will aim the bottom of the shaft and determine the ultimate directionand path of the club head. ie top to bottom or from back to forward. I like to think that the arc and swing path set by the left and right hand, as a unit, preceeds the exact arc and path the clubhead will travel trough. Now the release and acceleration of the club head before impact and shaft has past, or or entering the horizontal position.
Being that this is the most important motion and last chance to control the club head and accelerate it to transfer energy, the scenarios and combination are many and are a matter of preference.
I will give a few possibilities as best I can describe them. This is just what I feel as I swing any implement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0lVrcsBLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRsv2kytgeQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQ94Q4LPdI
Using a class(3) lever.
Left hand stopped forward motion of the butt of shaft and acts as the fulcrum. The Right hand (palm area, is the) effort or force applied on shaft towards ball and target direction. And again, the load is the club head being accelerated. this is a class(3)lever. Mostly the wrists as a unit(palmar flexion and extention)and execute this motion and the right arm will begin to straighten.
Now this is the kicker. The right hand can, if absolutely timed perfect, act simultaniously and autonomously, before and through impact as the final lever.(Slap hinge release) Again this is either a class( 3), if mostly wrist or class( 1) if flexion or effort is applied by the pinkey first,of the right hand, then ring finger and lastly the middle finger and the fulcrum is in the palm of the right hand, and of course the load is the club head that should be on fire by now. To be honest, this last lever( release) is both class1 and 3 in motion, because the torque or effort on the shaft is being directed in two directions simutaniously. The left hand(palm) one way(backwards) and the right hand(palm) forward(along with the above description) or performed with the hand also. Both classes used at the same time , using both hands together and as seperate hand units. Genius. Wish I had invinted it, but nature has the ultimate patent on that.
This is my story as to how I view the swing motion and it's intent to transfer energy to the ball, and I'm stikin to it. For now.
Mark, 1lovegolf
PS . Left side and hand dominant to shaft horizontal position and right handand body dominant through impact using above mentions lever to accelerate the load.
Wednesday, July 13, 2011
Monday, July 11, 2011
Hogan ,Moe and Tigers Secret, as “Eye” see it. By 1lovegolf, published12232010
Mr. Hogan said , “It is east to see, if I only told you where to look ”, Moe said it out right, and it was taught to Tiger.
Now the tricky part is to think inside the box, from within.
If your guess it had anything to do with the hands, you were on the right track, in my opinion.
Mr. Hogans words, “I told you where to look”, iMO,did not refer to where you should observe his motion, but rather, his words were meant to shed light on where he, the man himself, looked. The Secret was seen through his eyes.
Moe offered the explanation to why his stance and arm and subsequent hand position allowed him to see the Secret.
Tiger was taught the basic fundamental aspect of aiming the club, and thus he also saw the Secret.
This is not any news to anyone who sees it, I did not discover it, and to be honest, is just speculation on my part. However, I will say this, it works for me.
It is no coincidence that the best ball strikers and golf minds have concluded that in order to strike the ball, consistently, there is a matter of a few simple things that must occur in a repetitive golf swing. “I was taught that ”recently.
What those things are is up to each individual.
Good luck
Angle of Attack
I get the feeling most think this angle does not exist, we cannot see or feel it, or is unexplainable, therefore it must not exist .
In this blog, which I will post seperately today.
Hogan ,Moe and Tigers Secret, as “Eye” see it. By 1lovegolf, published12232010
I first began to explore the golf motion from the perspective, or view of what the golfer saw, visually as they executed their motion.
The following story has inspired me to experiment and observe further. And once again, it happened by accident .
Last week I hit a shot from just off the fairway with my 5 wood and attacked it out of frustration having only hit it 150 yards off the tee. I just swung back and motioned to the ball and swung. Before I could actually see where it went, it was gone. I knew it went far, but I lost it as it went over some trees. I went about 200 yards down the fairway hoping to find it .The other three in our foursome came over to help look, no luck, I was fuming. I nutted that ball and now I would have to take a drop on the far side of a creek that I was trying to hit over. After taking my drop hitting my third shot we all got to the green, when someone asked if this was my ball, and sure enough it was, some 65 yards past where we were looking for it. I was stunned, how did it go so far. Only 4 other times has this happened, all were shots that I just got up to the ball and attacked it. I felt as if my head was closer to or moving over the ball. Now I know this really wasn't the case, or was it?
In this blog, which I will post seperately today.
Hogan ,Moe and Tigers Secret, as “Eye” see it. By 1lovegolf, published12232010
I first began to explore the golf motion from the perspective, or view of what the golfer saw, visually as they executed their motion.
I am not the first to write about this possibility of a Secret, or what some have called Hogan's Angle and what Jody Vasquez has offered as his recollection of what Mr. Hogan passed on to him, in his book,"Afternoons with Mr. Hogan. Keern Haslem has offered his thoughts in an ebook called , "Hogan's Angle Thesis"and Alan Smith has offered to share his views in the Hogan's Angle also.
I for one, believe there is something to Hogan’s angle of attack , as it ties to his Secret and what was written about it. The following is what I see as the possible meaning of it all.
Even before I read any text on the subject, I knew there had to be a diagonal motion to the ball of some degree. I have speculated in many posts and offered different theories as to how it works. Unfortunately, not having a good golf motion, experimentation was the best I could do. My trash can and ax video, from youtube, was the closest thing to view, that came close to replicating and observing this angle in a natural swing motion. Unfortunately, the motion I observed did not fit conventional swing positions. I saw OTT, severe inside BS, rise and falling torso and a host of other conventional descrepencies. However, the motions all contained the same attack angle to the ball or target and what eventually was my saving grace, but that is another story.
Inspiration from Hogan.
Even before I read any text on the subject, I knew there had to be a diagonal motion to the ball of some degree. I have speculated in many posts and offered different theories as to how it works. Unfortunately, not having a good golf motion, experimentation was the best I could do. My trash can and ax video, from youtube, was the closest thing to view, that came close to replicating and observing this angle in a natural swing motion. Unfortunately, the motion I observed did not fit conventional swing positions. I saw OTT, severe inside BS, rise and falling torso and a host of other conventional descrepencies. However, the motions all contained the same attack angle to the ball or target and what eventually was my saving grace, but that is another story.
Inspiration from Hogan.
Hogan’s motion is like no other golfer, ever, we all know that, but why is it? His use of the shoulders in what I believe to be an OTT move while maintaining his shaft and spine angle can only involve a move diagonally to the ball. IMO. I also believe Hogan’s left wrist supination assisted with this. Now was this intentional or did he discover it by accident? I believe both. One might surprise themselves should they ever challenge conventional wisdom or simply try to figure out there swing motion on their own, IMO.
Also his hip action seems to set this move up. Since Hogans lateral move is done before his back swing is complete, he is in position and can attack the ball diagonally, first with the action of the rear foot and then knee and hip, towards the ball, in motion and intent. Now remember, the left side must lead the motion in direction and path first. Left knee is first, IMO.
This belief does not contradict other theories and beliefs. I believe it actually helps support them. One of which is a firm right side with no lateral motion back, only left knee forward, then slight lateral left of the hips and now the ball is in a more strategic position, in relation to the swing motion,both physically and visually to attack diagonally.
Personally, I have tried this and from chipping, pitching to full tee shots, each swing requires some degree of diagonal attack , even if it is just the right foot and knees intent to move there. It works!To me, it is the ultimate cause to all the effects. It is balnced and calculated at address and instinctively and naturally executed.
Having said all this, there is much yet to discover and learn.
Eventually this will all come out as others begin to, as they have already, put the pieces of the puzzle together and connect the dots. All I can offer is that it is a huge piece of the puzzle for me. I first had to believe this angle existed, then, I had to experiment for myself. I will offer this one observation about Hogan’s motion as I see it, Mr. Hogan’s “Supination” of the left wrist or( Cupping and Bowing), along with a mental and physical intent to attack along a diagonal angle are monumental keys in my swing thoughts and motion.
Quik story,
Eventually this will all come out as others begin to, as they have already, put the pieces of the puzzle together and connect the dots. All I can offer is that it is a huge piece of the puzzle for me. I first had to believe this angle existed, then, I had to experiment for myself. I will offer this one observation about Hogan’s motion as I see it, Mr. Hogan’s “Supination” of the left wrist or( Cupping and Bowing), along with a mental and physical intent to attack along a diagonal angle are monumental keys in my swing thoughts and motion.
Quik story,
The following story has inspired me to experiment and observe further. And once again, it happened by accident .
Last week I hit a shot from just off the fairway with my 5 wood and attacked it out of frustration having only hit it 150 yards off the tee. I just swung back and motioned to the ball and swung. Before I could actually see where it went, it was gone. I knew it went far, but I lost it as it went over some trees. I went about 200 yards down the fairway hoping to find it .The other three in our foursome came over to help look, no luck, I was fuming. I nutted that ball and now I would have to take a drop on the far side of a creek that I was trying to hit over. After taking my drop hitting my third shot we all got to the green, when someone asked if this was my ball, and sure enough it was, some 65 yards past where we were looking for it. I was stunned, how did it go so far. Only 4 other times has this happened, all were shots that I just got up to the ball and attacked it. I felt as if my head was closer to or moving over the ball. Now I know this really wasn't the case, or was it?
Sometimes even the smallest adjustments, motions, and change of direction are enough. The direction an object or force is moving, no matter how small, is important. The intent to stay motionless or stable is a state of mind, we are always moving. My point is, even though we cannot see the angle of attack through our actual motions, just the intent and the slightest motion is sometimes enough.
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Good Luck !
Mark 1lovegolf24
PS: This blog in not an attempt to discover or explain Hogan’s Secret or Angle. It is merely what I have done with the volume of information that has been put out there already and my attempt to use or experiment with this angle or motion. Furthermore, I do not take any credit for observing this angle. Having said that, it works for me. The why is not yet important, for now, it just helps me put”That” on “It”, in my natural feel and swing motion.
Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Impact and squaring the club face basics, using supination
After viewing Hogans swing countless times, I am fascinated by what I believe are the most Magical and dynamic use of the hands and wrists to square the club face at impact.
Speaking for myself, I believe The Impact position is the most important position in a swing motion. and the key to understanding , executing and repeating the swing motion . Furthermore, I believe, other than the ability to swing in balance, it is the first thing that should be taught.
It is my belief that the hinging of the wrist set the conditions, that are required to execute or achieve dynamic impact position. By simply observing these conditions, we can better understand our motion and understand the relation to what we feel and what is really happening.
Now what is impact position? For me, impact position is merely the position one dynamically achieves as the club face meets the ball. Once we arrive in this position, we can observe some simple things that took place and observe what must be repeated. Sort of a reverse engineering approach.
How do we know what our dynamic impact position is and how might one get into impact position?
First I would like to offer something that works for me. We can achieve impact position in a couple of ways. First, simply take your address position, now move the hands left until both hands are straight. You will notice that the left wrist went into palmer flexion and the right hand dorsi flexed or left palm up and right palm facing down. Also notice the angle that was created by the shaft and the right forearm due to the right wrist bending. Also the hips moved or rotated slightly and the right heel raised slightly as the weight shifted to the inside of the foot and over to the front foot..
The angle you have created represents half your range of motion in the wrists. The other half would be to flex or hinge the wrist the other way and move the shaft and hands to the right of you. I should make this clear, this is the swing motion, this is where you create and release lag. To me, this is the swing within the swing.
I believe lag, created by the body or hands being ahead of the motion of the club head can be set in the back swing or created in the down swing. Note there are two forms of lag we can achieve, (1),the hands behind body and (2) club face lagging behind hands. Also, lag can be created by the extention of the fingers and flexion releases this lag to accelerate the club face.
I must state that impact position is different for each shot depending on the amount of release. For example, a chip shot may use zero release where as the tee shot may release all the way into the ball. The right arm may or may not be straight at impact depending on preference. IMO, the wrist feel and manage this lag in concert with the hands.
The most important thing for to remember, is that the wrist maintain their position and execute their roles dynamically, while at the same time, going through their full range of motion, naturally. Also I believe it is easier for me to set the wrist or lag early with the left wrist(cupping) and release it with the right, after the left has bowed or supinated. This early setting of the lag also represents my optimal swing path. How you hold these positions or hinging is controlled by the muscles of the forearm. I think a certain amount of attention should also be paid to the top of the forearm and it muscles, they are keys to maintaining and executing the full ROM of the wrists. In any natural motion, this will all happen as a matter of course, but I thought bringing some attention to it might help.
For example, IMO, The highest level of execution or swing motion and use of the wrists, would be preset dorsi flexion at address,(or cupping), of the left wrist and into the back swing, and then, during transition, we would reverse or hinge back,(supination) and lead with the bowed left wrist hold. At some point, depending on timing and shot selection, we release control to the right hand to release or hinge through impact. . We must also understand that the left and right wrists act together as opposites in this motion. The right wrist will do exactly the opposite of the left. Also, there is speculation on my part that Mr. Hogan was able to execute all of this through his understanding of the rotational capabilities of the forearms. I also believe he was at times able to supinate both wrists at the same time at or during impact,(Secret).
I understand that there are many pieces to the puzzle, this is just how I see and feel one of them. Furthermore, I believe there the golf swing is actually made up of two swings. One, that the body swings the arms and the second , would be the hands and wrist swinging the club. The execution, both in the hinging of the wrist and release of the lag is, IMO, the nucleus of the swing motion. Furthermore I believe the swinging of the arms by the body should emulates and support the motion of hands and wrist in the golf swing .
Here are a few experiment videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3bvLG6iIdE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHrKLXTRPw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGpVx9dgcyk&feature=related
As with all my post , blogs comments, I must state, I am a student of golf, and I am merely trying to chronicle what I am learning as I observe the greats , what they had to say, watching their swings, reading and researching. I practice and experiment with all concepts or theories I have put forward. As with most of you out there, I take what I can use, implement it into my swing, and save the rest.
I must also say that the biggest part of my swing is drawing on my own experiences and see how they stand up to what others had to say about motion and their swing. I have never made a single claim, observation or discovered any information that hasn’t already been thought of or put forth at some point by someone else.. My satisfaction is knowing that in my journey, I can always find comfort, knowing that I am on the right track.
Furthermore, what works for me is not what I would say is best for anyone else, but the process by which I have used to build my swing, will hopefully be of use to the next person.
Mark, 1lovegolf24
Speaking for myself, I believe The Impact position is the most important position in a swing motion. and the key to understanding , executing and repeating the swing motion . Furthermore, I believe, other than the ability to swing in balance, it is the first thing that should be taught.
It is my belief that the hinging of the wrist set the conditions, that are required to execute or achieve dynamic impact position. By simply observing these conditions, we can better understand our motion and understand the relation to what we feel and what is really happening.
Now what is impact position? For me, impact position is merely the position one dynamically achieves as the club face meets the ball. Once we arrive in this position, we can observe some simple things that took place and observe what must be repeated. Sort of a reverse engineering approach.
How do we know what our dynamic impact position is and how might one get into impact position?
First I would like to offer something that works for me. We can achieve impact position in a couple of ways. First, simply take your address position, now move the hands left until both hands are straight. You will notice that the left wrist went into palmer flexion and the right hand dorsi flexed or left palm up and right palm facing down. Also notice the angle that was created by the shaft and the right forearm due to the right wrist bending. Also the hips moved or rotated slightly and the right heel raised slightly as the weight shifted to the inside of the foot and over to the front foot..
The angle you have created represents half your range of motion in the wrists. The other half would be to flex or hinge the wrist the other way and move the shaft and hands to the right of you. I should make this clear, this is the swing motion, this is where you create and release lag. To me, this is the swing within the swing.
I believe lag, created by the body or hands being ahead of the motion of the club head can be set in the back swing or created in the down swing. Note there are two forms of lag we can achieve, (1),the hands behind body and (2) club face lagging behind hands. Also, lag can be created by the extention of the fingers and flexion releases this lag to accelerate the club face.
I must state that impact position is different for each shot depending on the amount of release. For example, a chip shot may use zero release where as the tee shot may release all the way into the ball. The right arm may or may not be straight at impact depending on preference. IMO, the wrist feel and manage this lag in concert with the hands.
The most important thing for to remember, is that the wrist maintain their position and execute their roles dynamically, while at the same time, going through their full range of motion, naturally. Also I believe it is easier for me to set the wrist or lag early with the left wrist(cupping) and release it with the right, after the left has bowed or supinated. This early setting of the lag also represents my optimal swing path. How you hold these positions or hinging is controlled by the muscles of the forearm. I think a certain amount of attention should also be paid to the top of the forearm and it muscles, they are keys to maintaining and executing the full ROM of the wrists. In any natural motion, this will all happen as a matter of course, but I thought bringing some attention to it might help.
For example, IMO, The highest level of execution or swing motion and use of the wrists, would be preset dorsi flexion at address,(or cupping), of the left wrist and into the back swing, and then, during transition, we would reverse or hinge back,(supination) and lead with the bowed left wrist hold. At some point, depending on timing and shot selection, we release control to the right hand to release or hinge through impact. . We must also understand that the left and right wrists act together as opposites in this motion. The right wrist will do exactly the opposite of the left. Also, there is speculation on my part that Mr. Hogan was able to execute all of this through his understanding of the rotational capabilities of the forearms. I also believe he was at times able to supinate both wrists at the same time at or during impact,(Secret).
I understand that there are many pieces to the puzzle, this is just how I see and feel one of them. Furthermore, I believe there the golf swing is actually made up of two swings. One, that the body swings the arms and the second , would be the hands and wrist swinging the club. The execution, both in the hinging of the wrist and release of the lag is, IMO, the nucleus of the swing motion. Furthermore I believe the swinging of the arms by the body should emulates and support the motion of hands and wrist in the golf swing .
Here are a few experiment videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3bvLG6iIdE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHrKLXTRPw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGpVx9dgcyk&feature=related
As with all my post , blogs comments, I must state, I am a student of golf, and I am merely trying to chronicle what I am learning as I observe the greats , what they had to say, watching their swings, reading and researching. I practice and experiment with all concepts or theories I have put forward. As with most of you out there, I take what I can use, implement it into my swing, and save the rest.
I must also say that the biggest part of my swing is drawing on my own experiences and see how they stand up to what others had to say about motion and their swing. I have never made a single claim, observation or discovered any information that hasn’t already been thought of or put forth at some point by someone else.. My satisfaction is knowing that in my journey, I can always find comfort, knowing that I am on the right track.
Furthermore, what works for me is not what I would say is best for anyone else, but the process by which I have used to build my swing, will hopefully be of use to the next person.
Mark, 1lovegolf24
Friday, July 1, 2011
Natural Swing Motion Basics
When Building our Natural Swing motion, we must walk before we can run, agreed?
Now Hogan gave us Five Lessons, The Modern Fundamentals of Golf. In the book he explains The Grip, Stance and Posture, First and Second parts of the swing. I like to think of this as the walking stage.
What I would like to put out there for discussion, is the, 'Crawling ' stage. The basics tools and understanding required to walk. Simple principles of moving, swinging and transfering of weight in balance.
I would like to hear any comments or opinions as how we might define, and execute these principles.
I will do a video, with what I believe to be the basics, but I would like to hear others opinions first or even questions as to what importance these basics have in relation to a golf swing motion.
Looking forward to any and all input
Thanks,
Mark, 1lovegolf24
Now Hogan gave us Five Lessons, The Modern Fundamentals of Golf. In the book he explains The Grip, Stance and Posture, First and Second parts of the swing. I like to think of this as the walking stage.
What I would like to put out there for discussion, is the, 'Crawling ' stage. The basics tools and understanding required to walk. Simple principles of moving, swinging and transfering of weight in balance.
I would like to hear any comments or opinions as how we might define, and execute these principles.
I will do a video, with what I believe to be the basics, but I would like to hear others opinions first or even questions as to what importance these basics have in relation to a golf swing motion.
Looking forward to any and all input
Thanks,
Mark, 1lovegolf24
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